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Post by Xenocore on Jul 20, 2018 18:24:52 GMT -6
The Date for the start of the campaign...
StarDate 59001.3 Jan 1 2382 Prime Timeline, none of the red matter crap! :-)
Romulans are in two factions. Kiingons have recovered fighting strength from the dominion war Everything eise is pretty much neutral again.
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Post by Rigil Kent on Jul 20, 2018 18:25:46 GMT -6
With regards to the shows, where are we in the timeline?
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Post by Xenocore on Jul 20, 2018 18:36:34 GMT -6
With regards to the shows, where are we in the timeline? imgur.com/a/hdPRLOu2382 is 2 years after existing canon.
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Post by WxMAN on Jul 23, 2018 16:04:01 GMT -6
So, just post Dominion War essentially?
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Post by Rigil Kent on Sept 1, 2018 10:52:05 GMT -6
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Post by Rigil Kent on Sept 6, 2018 10:41:07 GMT -6
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Post by Xenocore on Sept 6, 2018 22:47:47 GMT -6
Turns out the Kirk was in drydock in 2381. Its canonically available.
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Post by Rigil Kent on Sept 7, 2018 9:06:00 GMT -6
Turns out the Kirk was in drydock in 2381. Its canonically available. Putting on my Nerd glasses here. "Canonically" is not the proper term. In Trek, canon only applies to what is explicitly shown on the screen - television or movie - and the James Kirk wasn't ever identified as such on television. They have a really weird level of canonicity - I think "Official" is the next level and consists of the stuff in the books that are released; I'm not sure what the name is for stuff that has been removed from canon entirely (e.g. the Animated Series)... I think Ashrolar's history includes the Kirk being in drydock in 2381 as well. From the Memory Beta article (Memory Beta is the wiki for the books and the like):
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Post by Xenocore on Sept 27, 2018 17:30:31 GMT -6
For those folks that are not aware. I may post more of these as i come accross them. If you are familiar, ignore these kinds of posts. This is for generic working knowledge.
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Post by Xenocore on Sept 27, 2018 17:31:29 GMT -6
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Post by Rigil Kent on Sept 28, 2018 7:23:47 GMT -6
Spacedock is awesome. There's also a really neat string of videos about the Expanse television series.
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Post by Rigil Kent on Sept 28, 2018 8:37:41 GMT -6
Also? OMFG ... the type 2 phaser isn't even waterproof? Jeez ...
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Post by CommJunkee on Sept 28, 2018 10:48:25 GMT -6
Also? OMFG ... the type 2 phaser isn't even waterproof? Jeez ... Yeah... and I wonder why I have issues with Star Trek... SMH.
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Post by Rigil Kent on Sept 28, 2018 11:08:12 GMT -6
Every sci-fi setting has moments of "Well, that's stupid." Although, to be fair, if you throw your sidearm into a river today, you shouldn't expect it to work at 100%. My gripes were more about how the weapon is designed with regards to ergonomics - that just doesn't look very comfortable and the 6-second delay between shots? Jeez. In a firefight, 6-seconds is an eternity (so: shoot the bad guy with the disruptor pistol, then take the pistol and use it.) There's a reason that the general design of a pistol hasn't really changed for several hundred years; yeah, the tech has improved and we've tweaked it, but a guy from the 1600s could pick up a modern Glock and figure it out fairly quickly. This thing just looks like a dustbuster, not a weapon (which sort of fits Starfleet's warpspeed dive toward stupidity with that regard), and seems really fragile... In this case, though, I expect it was a story element in one of the earlier TNG episodes - Character X has a phaser so why doesn't he just shoot this dude and avoid this entire plot? - that was never again touched on. I also blame Roddenberry a little bit - he really dove hard into the whole 'commie utopia' nonsense with TNG; you'll note that TOS, while goofy at times, wasn't this dumb. Even their type 2 looks like a weapon...
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Post by CommJunkee on Sept 28, 2018 11:31:11 GMT -6
...the 6-second delay between shots? Jeez. In a firefight, 6-seconds is an eternity (so: shoot the bad guy with the disruptor pistol, then take the pistol and use it.) I think they said the delay is only when firing at the highest settings, to ensure it does not overheat. I did think it cool that it was also utilitarian as well, good old multi-tool stuff (cutting, welding etc...).
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Post by CommJunkee on Sept 28, 2018 11:34:28 GMT -6
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Post by Rigil Kent on Sept 28, 2018 11:41:29 GMT -6
...the 6-second delay between shots? Jeez. In a firefight, 6-seconds is an eternity (so: shoot the bad guy with the disruptor pistol, then take the pistol and use it.) I think they said the delay is only when firing at the highest settings, to ensure it does not overheat. Ah. I think you're right. Still...
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Post by Rigil Kent on Sept 28, 2018 11:55:12 GMT -6
Also, to be fair, the Federation of the TNG-era is clearly communist which sort of explains why they make a lot of really stupid decisions and their tech seems borderline retarded (super awesome in one way, unfathomably stupid in another.) So that might be a way for you to get around your issues with Trek, CJ; embrace the worker's paradise! Or visit one of our lovely re-education camps on Betazed or Vulcan... (The Federation of Kirk's era was clearly not communist, though, which makes me want to know exactly when it flipped. Was there a soft coup? A hard one? Etc. Clearly, it would have had to have happened after Kirk died because he would have fought it off...)
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Post by WxMAN on Sept 28, 2018 14:18:32 GMT -6
(Technically it is post scarcity and not communist as there is still a "state"... it'd probably be most accurate to call it a post-scarcity socialist "utopia" - though I loved DS9's shots on how silly a lot of Trek is...)
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