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Post by Rigil Kent on May 1, 2011 12:06:36 GMT -6
As I have told most of you privately, I'm thinking about incorporating some "loyalty" missions into the game (ala those from Mass Effect 2) wherein your character has a risky and potentially dangerous sidequest that (s)he wants to get accomplished, but will need assistance. This way, you (generic you, not specific) will need to go to the acting captain - Ondo - and effectively say "I know this is risky and dangerous and a little out of our way, but I'd really like to do X." This way, with Ondo agreeing/supporting we can build in a reason why your character trusts him enough to really follow him.
So, give your character's goals some thoughts, and try to come up with an idea for a loyalty mission. You can PM me with the idea or post it in the open, either way. It could be something as simple as rescuing a person from your character's past, or obtaining some sort of nifty item, or something even more esoteric (e.g., like No-Bark realizing he's functionally insane and needs help, so he goes to Ondo.)
PCs who come with an good loyalty mission idea that I can use for an adventure will gain an additional THREE Experience Points. And to counter that additional XP out for Ondo (since he's not getting a loyalty mission), accomplishing this mission will automatically count as the 3 pt version of Ondo's "They're my friends. I've got to help them."
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Post by zenwolf on May 2, 2011 20:28:44 GMT -6
So Ondo has been considering naming an acting XO. Looking at the crew there really isn't a clear candidate. A droid won't work. No Bark is insane. Vrosk and Brody are rowdy mercs, Tesla is a distrustful hothead, and Jor spends all his time with machines. Ondo had considered both Brody and Tesla. I lean towards Tesla. She seems to fit the lancer trope the closest to me. But truthfully I just don't know.
Who do you guys think should be XO?
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Post by Rigil Kent on May 3, 2011 9:19:46 GMT -6
Bueller? Bueller?
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Post by WxMAN on May 3, 2011 9:53:48 GMT -6
Hold your horses... I am typing! Why not? Is there a star wars rule about that? As No-Bark's representative in these matters I insist that he is not insane.. in fact he is the most sane person in the galaxy... I will not tolerate this libel and slander good sir! Vrosk and Brody are rowdy mercs, Tesla is a distrustful hothead Brody and Vorssk are also hot heads... need we say more than the police incident... Tesla was trying to talk the cops down and had succeeded until Brody/Vorrsk further antagonized them... Who do you guys think should be XO? I personally think that 8T33 is a fine XO as he has been with the crew from the beginning... barring that... Tesla is the next logical choice, she is all about 'business' and making profit for the group... and while can lose her temper, is less 'on the edge' than Vorrsk and Brody that's for sure... Though as chief medical officer, No-Bark outranks you all!
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Post by Rigil Kent on May 3, 2011 10:04:34 GMT -6
Why not? Is there a star wars rule about that? No, but as we saw Friday before even the craziness started, no one looks at the droid with anything less than "he's a soulless machine." In the SW verse, droids are looked as non-citizens, property even, so having one in charge? Difficult to fathom.
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Post by WxMAN on May 3, 2011 10:14:23 GMT -6
No, but as we saw Friday before even the craziness started, no one looks at the droid with anything less than "he's a soulless machine." In the SW verse, droids are looked as non-citizens, property even, so having one in charge? Difficult to fathom. Awww, but I (player) loves 8T33, all I say is in jest b/c he is awesome... (character) just doesn't trust any robot, so it isn't personal... he just grew up in a different era where being this way was how things were
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Post by Gigermann on May 3, 2011 10:27:51 GMT -6
Unless programmed otherwise, droids are made for taking orders, not giving them—since everybody knows that, nobody's going to "follow" a droid, however cool he may be. 8t's okay with that; he knows his place Tesla is really the only candidate that makes any sense, head-temperature notwithstanding. Some leaders need more work than others, but that doesn't mean they aren't leaders.
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Post by LabRat on May 3, 2011 10:41:39 GMT -6
I personally was going to say the droid but now that I have been enlightened I'll retract my bid. I hesitate with Brody because I was under the impression that he needed someone of authority to listen to in order to keep him in check. If he's in charge when Ondo is away then that defeats the purpose. Only other concern I have is if Brody will view Tesla as someone of authority, but I guess we would have that problem with any XO. Plus I'm know Tesla has some extra hydrospanners lying around I'm sure Ondo will give Tesla a stern talkin' to about the responsibilities and that she has to curb her temper. Other than that maybe Jor? Though I was thinking he would be much happier in the engine room being a mechanic...
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Post by zenwolf on May 3, 2011 10:56:39 GMT -6
Yeah, if Ondo put forth 8T as XO I am sure the others would look at him much the same way the Roman senators looked at Caligula after he tried to appointed his horse a consul. And I wasn't trying to insult anyone, just pointing out some of the sticking points for each character and get a discussion started.For good measure: Ondo is a brooding potential darksider with zero leadership experience. It's just like Gigerman said "Some leaders need more work than others, but that doesn't mean they aren't leaders." Honestly, the only reason Ondo was considering Brody was because they have been working together for a while now and he considers him like a Brother. Once he reasons through everything, he would likely rule him out quickly.
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Post by LabRat on May 3, 2011 11:15:35 GMT -6
Yeah, I just thought about what it would be like to take order from something like C-3P0 and quite honestly I wouldn't be cool with that. I had forgotten Caligula did that. Hey, at least the horse can say "neigh"! Ba Dum Tish! Yeah, I'll give myself my own thumbs down
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Post by Rigil Kent on May 3, 2011 14:13:17 GMT -6
My opinion - and its only my opinion and should have no weight in what the group decides - is that Tesla probably is the best choice for first officer and I suspect that, if you got Brody to be entirely honest, he would admit that he's a better follower than leader. Jor might be capable, but as thedefiantbudah's work schedule has kept him from the game as often as it has, its really hard to tell since we really don't have a very firm grasp on his character.
YMMV
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Post by thedefiantbudah on May 6, 2011 17:57:50 GMT -6
my vote would be for tesla ... as she's the lesser of the listed "evils" as it were lol
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Post by WxMAN on May 13, 2011 9:07:34 GMT -6
Alright... well before we get all combat heavy and into our CSI mode... I will heal Ondo...
So... Ondo... add the dice number: [dice=20] + 2 (equipment bonus) + 5 (character level)... that's how much HP you get... you also move +1 up on the condition check
Furthermore... oh illustrious GM... I would like to ask your the favor of using a Wilderness First Aid check (UR 28)...
My justification is thus: we are in an urban jungle, and have investigated many rooms, etc etc... surely these murder victim's had some supplies that medicine could be made out of... perchance may I make a roll to determine if I found enough misc supplies to make a rudimentary medpac out of?[rand=263039185630616131975720989508793249795959919277069946979233138642]
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Post by Rigil Kent on May 13, 2011 9:35:33 GMT -6
Sure.
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Post by WxMAN on May 13, 2011 10:02:53 GMT -6
Sure. Need a 10 or better... [dice=20] and FAIL[rand=310988813394387939918934724568320199380112233477079786101809961327]
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Post by Rigil Kent on May 14, 2011 13:47:52 GMT -6
Couple of things: - Tesla has the Starship Designer feat (Scum and Villainy). I recommend reading up on the customizations that can be made to the Exeter because of this feat.
- If you guys are still wanting to get the Z-95, what we can do is have Tesla utilize the before-mentioned feat and basically chop it down to reduce it from Gargantuan to Huge (shorten the wings and the nose, that sort of thing.) It would require a DC 25 Mechanics check, 50,000 credits (its considered a non-standard modification), and 10 days of work (modified down by number of workers). The actual stats of the ship would not change.
- Also, there are at least two characters that I'm aware of with the Tech Specialist feat - I recommend you guys read up on that feat and look at potential upgrades that could be made to equipment you possess.
Also, let's use this thread to establish what the plan is for next week.
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Post by LabRat on May 14, 2011 16:04:02 GMT -6
Already on it I figured since we have some money to play around with we could do some customizations to the ship, I just needed a better grasp of the feat. If you guys want to spend the money, let me know and I'll do the mechanics check...can Jor help me for a +2?
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Post by Gigermann on May 14, 2011 16:48:12 GMT -6
Also, let's use this thread to establish what the plan is for next week. AFAIK, we do as much pre-prep as possible for the jump to lightspeed, and jump ASAFP If you guys want to spend the money, let me know and I'll do the mechanics check...can Jor help me for a +2? More-or-less automatic +5 from 8t
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Post by zenwolf on May 14, 2011 17:14:36 GMT -6
AFAIK, we do as much pre-prep as possible for the jump to lightspeed, and jump ASAFP Sounds good. Were we planning on stopping in Futility or are we going to Popara first/ More-or-less automatic +5 from 8t And +5 from Ondo. Definitely OK with spending. I think we can also get away with giving everyone 500 credits payment. More to discussed later?
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Post by Rigil Kent on May 14, 2011 17:45:11 GMT -6
I think we can also get away with giving everyone 500 credits payment. More to discussed later? Make sure to adjust the ledger.
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Post by LabRat on May 14, 2011 18:43:15 GMT -6
For Z-95 Mods-
[dice=20] +15 for mechanics +5 for 8t +5 for Ondo[rand=620499948625431915264752207128773671582883514095531806199136541513]
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Post by Rigil Kent on May 14, 2011 18:58:39 GMT -6
Wait ... just so I'm on the same page, you guys are going ahead and purchasing the Z-95 and then modifying it?
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Post by zenwolf on May 14, 2011 19:20:13 GMT -6
Make sure to adjust the ledger. Ledger updated.
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Post by Rigil Kent on May 14, 2011 19:42:38 GMT -6
And the Z-95? Is that a purchase? It would end up being a total of 230,000 (180,000 + 50,000 from the modifications.)
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Post by Rigil Kent on May 15, 2011 9:38:13 GMT -6
And the Z-95? Is that a purchase? Yes? No? Also, zenwolf's question was never answered:
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Post by LabRat on May 15, 2011 9:49:50 GMT -6
I took Josh saying:
as a go ahead for spending the money on the Z-95. If he meant something else then I'll retract my dice roll. I'm okay with spending it but it shouldn't be up to just me
I would rather go see Popara first just to unload his cargo. If something happens where it is lost or damaged then we are in deep doo-doo. Just my two cents though
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Post by Rigil Kent on May 15, 2011 10:29:27 GMT -6
I took Josh saying: as a go ahead for spending the money on the Z-95. If he meant something else then I'll retract my dice roll. I'm okay with spending it but it shouldn't be up to just me I actually took that as spending money on Exeter upgrades, but I can definitely see why you took it thus. And speaking of planned upgrades for Exeter due to Starship Designer & Tech Specialist, did you have something specific in mind?
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Post by zenwolf on May 15, 2011 16:34:47 GMT -6
I just saw that somebody needed some help and threw my hat into the ring. Sorry for being nebulous.
I am okay if we decide to get the starfighter, but do we really need/want it? Since Brody would be the one flying it I would be interested in hearing magman's opinion on the matter. If he would rather just fire the heavy cannons from the Exeter then I think we should nix the idea.
It would be a sizable chunk on the funds so I would like to here from the crew on this and put it to a vote.
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Post by Rigil Kent on May 15, 2011 17:32:01 GMT -6
Alternately, the fundage could be spent on doing additional upgrades to the Exeter to either make it more combat-capable or simply more efficient.
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Post by zenwolf on May 15, 2011 18:01:24 GMT -6
Alternately, the fundage could be spent on doing additional upgrades to the Exeter to make it more combat-capable I vote for this.
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