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Post by Rigil Kent on Jun 28, 2011 9:06:10 GMT -6
Yeah ... if she's a more swashbucklerly type, that might explain why she's not really a part of the clan anymore. They're more into discreet ops, while she wants to swing on chandeliers and have epic duels ... not very subtle, that.
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Post by WxMAN on Jun 28, 2011 11:00:50 GMT -6
Question for the gurus... I was poking around, looking at PrCs for clerics... Specifically, I was looking at "Church Inquisitor" [CD pg26]... One of the bonuses is "Inquisition Domain", where it grants me access to that domain.... if I took that class, could I retrain that domain down the road as I can with other domains as per PHB2 retraining rules?
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Post by Rigil Kent on Jun 28, 2011 11:39:40 GMT -6
Yeah.
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Post by LabRat on Jun 28, 2011 11:43:08 GMT -6
You're right, I had overlooked the skill points. I was more focused on combat where if I started out rogue I wouldn't be as effective since I have a 0 BAB, low strength, and lack weapon's finesse. If I went with swashbuckler I could get weapon's finesse right off the bat. Rogue would maximize the skill points but I would have to be more of a ranged fighter for first level if I am to actually hit anything.
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Post by Gigermann on Jun 28, 2011 11:46:09 GMT -6
Rogue would maximize the skill points but I would have to be more of a ranged fighter for first level if I am to actually hit anything. You won't be any worse off than I am—you just have to choose your fights carefully, and make sure you have backup.
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Post by Rigil Kent on Jun 28, 2011 13:24:26 GMT -6
Or me. I have a +0 with my rapier.
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Post by LabRat on Jun 28, 2011 13:27:50 GMT -6
Okay, I guess I'm in first level shock but this is going to be interesting and probably bound for hilarity. Maybe we should change our party name form The Unwanted to The Walking Dead...or at the very least The Red Shirts
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Post by WxMAN on Jun 28, 2011 13:40:05 GMT -6
Excellent... thank you... Part 2: Can I retrain a bonus feat granted by a domain choice assuming I don't change that domain?
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Post by Rigil Kent on Jun 28, 2011 13:53:03 GMT -6
Not sure I understand your meaning here. Correct me if I'm wrong but are you asking: - Bob the Cleric picks the Awesome! domain.
- The Awesome! domain grants the bonus feat "Weapon Focus (Awesome Sword ... which is one of those batshit insane zweihanders from Dragon Age II that are as tall as a house).
- Bob doesn't want Weapon Focus (Awesome Sword) though, so he wants to retrain this feat to ... er ... Skill Focus (Craft - Pottery).
If that's what you mean, then I think the answer is no. Its a bonus feat and you can't retrain it.
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Post by WxMAN on Jun 28, 2011 13:54:32 GMT -6
Not sure I understand your meaning here. Correct me if I'm wrong but are you asking: - Bob the Cleric picks the Awesome! domain.
- The Awesome! domain grants the bonus feat "Weapon Focus (Awesome Sword ... which is one of those batshit insane zweihanders from Dragon Age II that are as tall as a house).
- Bob doesn't want Weapon Focus (Awesome Sword) though, so he wants to retrain this feat to ... er ... Skill Focus (Craft - Pottery).
If that's what you mean, then I think the answer is no. Its a bonus feat and you can't retrain it. Yes... that is what I meant... thanks... but how will Euric learn pottery now? Now I just have this stupid awesome sword....
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Post by Rigil Kent on Jun 28, 2011 14:14:31 GMT -6
I actually see the reasoning behind it though - sometimes, you can get a bonus feat that you don't even qualify (War domain, I believe, grants a 1st level cleric with a BAB of +0 the Weapon Focus feat ... even tho that feat requires BAB +1) ... That said, you might be able to convince the GM otherwise. Look at how easily I was convinced to let zenwolf's cleric derive bonus spells based on STR instead of WIS ... they're just guidelines and all.
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Post by WxMAN on Jun 28, 2011 14:37:48 GMT -6
I actually see the reasoning behind it though - sometimes, you can get a bonus feat that you don't even qualify (War domain, I believe, grants a 1st level cleric with a BAB of +0 the Weapon Focus feat ... even tho that feat requires BAB +1) ... That said, you might be able to convince the GM otherwise. Look at how easily I was convinced to let zenwolf's cleric derive bonus spells based on STR instead of WIS ... they're just guidelines and all. Yeah.. I see the reasoning... I just wasn't sure if you could or not... I doubt it will make much difference regardless, but I will ask SQ if I stumble upon one I'd like to change really bad
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Post by Rigil Kent on Jun 29, 2011 15:59:17 GMT -6
Okay, I guess I'm in first level shock but this is going to be interesting and probably bound for hilarity. Maybe we should change our party name form The Unwanted to The Walking Dead...or at the very least The Red Shirts Thing is, 1st level characters are expected to kind of suck. Which is why I hate 1st level.
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Post by thedefiantbudah on Jun 30, 2011 17:21:53 GMT -6
starting gold...
[dice=4][dice=4][dice=4][dice=4][dice=4][dice=4]
6d4x10=110gp
yup..i'm screwed lol[rand=1250052875839173856770596001297244918663352727895896859429776669]
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Post by thedefiantbudah on Jun 30, 2011 17:30:22 GMT -6
btw...do we need to actually buy the incidentals...or just the major stuff...cause i don't wanna be out in the woods without toilet paper lol
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Post by WxMAN on Jun 30, 2011 17:31:22 GMT -6
I bought incidentals as well...
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Post by Rigil Kent on Jul 5, 2011 9:12:29 GMT -6
btw...do we need to actually buy the incidentals...or just the major stuff...cause i don't wanna be out in the woods without toilet paper lol You could always just pick up the starting gear according to the character class. The "incidentals" are often included in such gear...
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Post by WxMAN on Jul 16, 2011 10:53:32 GMT -6
Continuing on our discussion from last night: SQ, we were discussing if this is going to be a tongue in cheek adventure like we are currently discussing (super generic names of places, villains, plot points, etc - party members more interested in being 'slacker' heroes), or if we wanted to make it 'gaming is serious business' style with roleplaying, deep and interesting plot points/villains/decisions/characters, etc.... Thoughts?
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Post by Mike E. on Jul 17, 2011 7:36:57 GMT -6
Honestly, I was hoping for something a little more serious, but truthfully, it's more the way the players play. I will base most of the levity on player reaction and play style.
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Post by Gigermann on Jul 17, 2011 10:55:02 GMT -6
This tongue-in-cheek thing is just a tangent. Feel free to ignore it.
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Post by Rigil Kent on Jul 17, 2011 16:56:47 GMT -6
Right. So, more serious. Noted.
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Post by zenwolf on Jul 24, 2011 12:39:35 GMT -6
Going to re roll the stats and maybe go with a warlock so we can have some arcane blasting in the party. Plus it's a class I have been interested in playing for a while.
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Post by Rigil Kent on Jul 26, 2011 16:47:34 GMT -6
?? I thought you were playing a warlock?
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Post by zenwolf on Jul 27, 2011 16:18:10 GMT -6
?? I thought you were playing a warlock? I've been having trouble locking down a concept that I liked that would also help the group. Warlock was a little too "focused" so I started looking elsewhere. Depending on how you make them Psions can fit a number of different roles, so I have gone with that. I think i have what I am looking for now. This character will fit into some of the gaps in the party while still peaking my interest. As an added bonus he still gets to be a noble while being not human. (Elans are psychic abberations. They were once humans but were transformed by a secret order. They retain basic memories of their old life, but are forever "changed")
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Post by Rigil Kent on Jul 27, 2011 17:23:50 GMT -6
I know your pain there, man. It took me forever to decide and even now, I'm not 100% sold on the Beguiler...
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Post by Gigermann on Jul 27, 2011 20:22:41 GMT -6
Maybe you should both say, "To hell with the 'needs of the group,'" and just do what you want. With some support from the GM, I think we can survive a mismatched party, if something else is more fun.
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Post by LabRat on Jul 27, 2011 21:44:50 GMT -6
At this point I would have to agree. There's obviously some restlessness among players choosing what character they want to play. I would much rather have an unbalanced party than one that is balanced but only out of obligation. Pick something that you would have fun with and then we will try to make it work.
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Post by WxMAN on Jul 28, 2011 8:07:30 GMT -6
Maybe you should both say, "To hell with the 'needs of the group,'" and just do what you want. Agreed. If the group obviously needs something, a PC who dies can fill that void... Furthermore this is supposed to be a "long haul" campaign... It will be a lot more fun if you play what you want than to be "stuck" with something for 6+ months
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Post by Rigil Kent on Jul 28, 2011 8:26:46 GMT -6
Maybe you should both say, "To hell with the 'needs of the group,'" and just do what you want. Therein lies the rub for me: I don't know what I want to play.
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Post by WxMAN on Jul 28, 2011 8:31:39 GMT -6
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