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Post by WxMAN on Aug 6, 2012 7:48:36 GMT -6
I don't see any indication that you left him anywhere. From what I remember he went home when we said we were going to the castle as he didn't want to attract undue attention... He wasn't even marked in the mob fight, just the (physically present) four of us were... How are you planning on doing this? He will be keeping an eye on you (since you're obviously a mage of some sort) ... Well, first things first, I was looking at my previous nights spell slotting (2nd level vs 3rd) - I don't have mount slotted so it looks like we are hoofing it... Figures the one time I'd need it I'd of pulled it... I was planning on getting a bit away from the group... a few feet is all really I need... Have Aria strike up a convo with Templar Douchealot.. and just ask a kid or two some harmless questions like "How did they come to be recruited for this fine academy?" "How did their family react?" "How do they feel about going to the academy?" "What do they expect it'll be like?" Just get a general sense of how they actually came to be here and if they are going on their own wills or what they've been told about the place... Definitely going to be watching my words and make sure that Douchalot is appropriately distracted in conversation and let the kids feel "safe" around me...
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Post by LabRat on Aug 6, 2012 11:45:46 GMT -6
Yeah the problem is that if Aria knows the Templar is giving her the "I think I know you" look then she really doesn't want to get too close to the guy, much less strike up a conversation with him.
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Post by Rigil Kent on Aug 6, 2012 12:03:42 GMT -6
That actually leads me to another question: Why is Aria so concerned about people learning of her high birth?
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Post by LabRat on Aug 6, 2012 12:12:22 GMT -6
Simply because she doesn't trust them yet. They've been only together for what...2 days? She's not going to show all of her cards unless it behooves her to do so or unless she is (ultimately) recognized. Plus she wants to make sure she is going to do a good job before associating her family name with her deeds. If she can't hack it she doesn't want more dishonor on her family name. Give it time. They are bound to find out sooner than later.
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Post by Gigermann on Aug 6, 2012 12:58:42 GMT -6
Simply because she doesn't trust them yet. I didn't realize she was hiding her nobility from the party, not the people we keep running into. If that's the case, she's going to be using Bluff a lot vs the other party-members—fortunately for her, at this level, we all suck at Sense Motive.
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Post by Mike E. on Aug 6, 2012 13:44:15 GMT -6
Do we really need to complicate it with dice rolls among the party. I'm ok with if she's keeping it secret, fine. I'll over react when the big reveal does happen.
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Post by Mike E. on Aug 6, 2012 13:50:50 GMT -6
And sense you ass hats went to the castle without me, at least bring me back a crudite' or two if you could. They always have the best hor d'oeuvres at castles.
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Post by WxMAN on Aug 6, 2012 14:14:21 GMT -6
Yeah the problem is that if Aria knows the Templar is giving her the "I think I know you" look then she really doesn't want to get too close to the guy, much less strike up a conversation with him. Fine, then Aust or Vasul can talk to Douchealot... I guess it would have to be Aust since I doubt conversing with the ninja would be something either person would like to do... If BA was here I would have BA do it since he is quite loud and talkative.... If that's the case, she's going to be using Bluff a lot vs the other party-members—fortunately for her, at this level, we all suck at Sense Motive.I have a Sense Motive of 6... so I think I would have at least a 50/50 shot of beating her bluff - if I wanted to at least... Plus she hasn't so much outright lied about her ties as she has lied through omission... So sense motive would hardly give us any clue anyway unless she says "I am not a 1 percenter" in which case Sense Motive would say liar! Either way Jareth isn't so much interested in her high blood for any other reason than to know who he is dealing with... I think he can put 2 and 2 together on Vasul... BA is an open book... and I think Aust told the truth when we met... And sense you ass hats went to the castle without me, at least bring me back a crudite' or two if you could. They always have the best hor d'oeuvres at castles. Hey, shave your head and we'll let you come meet the royals next time... your hair is becoming quite the distinguishing feature, and not always in the good way....
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Post by Mike E. on Aug 6, 2012 14:17:55 GMT -6
I pity da' fool that runs at me with a razor. Just try it, and we'll see who loses a few inches off the top.
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Post by Gigermann on Aug 6, 2012 14:22:36 GMT -6
So sense motive would hardly give us any clue anyway unless she says "I am not a 1 percenter" Sense Motive vs Bluff isn't just about telling lies—because D&D doesn't have separate skills for other related applications—but about deception and/or hiding information, or for "tricking" people (independent of actual speech). It takes effort to disguise one's noble upbringing, same as for being low-born. If Valsûl would pick up on her "noble bearing," though she doesn't want him to, that would be of interest to me. As far as "rolling" goes, I don't really care; I'd just like to know.
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Post by LabRat on Aug 6, 2012 15:14:46 GMT -6
Actually now that I think about it, Aria did help him overturn the carriage so she has already interacted with him. I guess talking to him wouldn't be that big of a deal, though I would recommend someone with more charisma if they are available.
Isn't that really what we are here to do; roll dice? There isn't a "big reveal", she just hasn't offered any information and no one has questioned her in depth. See, no sarcasm is needed.
My apologies for not specifically stating that she was keeping her nobility on a need to know basis. I figured it was apparent during the first session when we were introducing ourselves. Rigil asked if I wanted to include my title and I said that she would just introduce herself as Aria for now. Jareth even asked more information about her but she didn't really divulge. Since N8 didn't ask for a bluff check, I didn't see it as an issue. As I said before she doesn't really know you guys and she doesn't trust herself so she's just keeping quiet. Eventually this is going to be counterproductive because she does want to attach her good deeds to her family name so eventually she is going to say who she is. Or if there is some situation where he nobility would benefit the party. If anyone wants to put the kabosh on this then on Friday work in some way to question her. She will fail her bluff check and then you will know...simple as that.
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Post by Gigermann on Aug 6, 2012 16:45:28 GMT -6
Not N8's job to ask for skill-checks Since you didn't reinforce that (lack of) information every five minutes, it just fell out of everyone's attention—we moved on. No other party members have pressed Val for his "occupation," either, so Aria's not the only one—both cases, I presume, are because the Players already know, so it doesn't occur to them to bring it up. At the very least, I expect that Jareth would be asking those questions in the course of much conversation. Either way, a lack of questions does not necessarily indicate a lack of interest. That said, SQ is right that we don't need to bog things down with constant inter-party contests, but for RP's sake, we should probably bear the matter in mind, at least. OTOH, if we infuse too much logic into the matter, we will end up going our separate ways
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Post by LabRat on Aug 6, 2012 17:19:13 GMT -6
To me this is such a minor issue that if it helps with the party mechanic to have everyone know who she is, then so be it.
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Post by Rigil Kent on Aug 6, 2012 19:22:13 GMT -6
Whoa. Didn't mean to start a firestorm! When I asked, I was mostly asking about why she was going out of her way to avoid NPCs from learning and honestly hadn't even thought about the other PCs knowing (or not.)
It's all good...
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Post by Gigermann on Aug 6, 2012 19:52:38 GMT -6
Whoa. Didn't mean to start a firestorm! When I asked, I was mostly asking about why she was going out of her way to avoid NPCs from learning and honestly hadn't even thought about the other PCs knowing (or not.) Not exactly an "argument," per se—just happened to have multiple opinions on something. You should be happy more than two people are actually communicating, here
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Post by thedefiantbudah on Aug 7, 2012 0:17:04 GMT -6
if i must choose...i'll have the cake
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Post by Mike E. on Aug 7, 2012 5:53:25 GMT -6
Fuck the cake. I want pie.
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Post by Rigil Kent on Aug 7, 2012 10:31:52 GMT -6
Regarding the Aria thing, I suspect that all of the other PCs at least suspect she's highborn (or at least from a very wealthy merchant family) simply based on how she speaks and walks, but they don't know much more beyond that. From what I remember he went home when we said we were going to the castle as he didn't want to attract undue attention... He wasn't even marked in the mob fight, just the (physically present) four of us were... Because the GM forgot about him since the player wasn't present. No, not a problem. Hmm. I'm thinking that Jareth may need to make a Will save to keep from being snide toward Sir Galad ...
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Post by Rigil Kent on Aug 7, 2012 12:20:48 GMT -6
BTW, we will have a new player on Friday. Welcome, dhuddle.
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Post by LabRat on Aug 7, 2012 12:23:32 GMT -6
Ooo, fun! Is that Danny? What is he going to play?
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Post by Gigermann on Aug 7, 2012 12:23:39 GMT -6
BTW, we will have a new player on Friday. Welcome, dhuddle. AKA Lieutenant Dan
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Post by Rigil Kent on Aug 7, 2012 12:33:17 GMT -6
It also means that LabRat is no longer the "newbie."
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Post by LabRat on Aug 7, 2012 13:57:18 GMT -6
It also means that LabRat is no longer the "newbie." Yeah, it was really weird. As soon as I read that we had a new player a resounding "Ding!" filled the room. And I get this feeling that if I go to bed tonight, the next morning I am going to feel like a stronger, more capable player. ;D
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Post by Rigil Kent on Aug 7, 2012 14:06:10 GMT -6
LOL
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Post by WxMAN on Aug 7, 2012 15:07:45 GMT -6
Hmm. I'm thinking that Jareth may need to make a Will save to keep from being snide toward Sir Galad ... That's fine... Sir Douchealot is annoying to me (character) for whatever reason... probably just a scapegoat of frustration for the player Also, Lt. Dan can't be named Lt. Dan b/c I already know someone named Lt. Dan and I have a strict "no same names" policy with people...
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Post by Rigil Kent on Aug 7, 2012 15:17:13 GMT -6
Hmm. I'm thinking that Jareth may need to make a Will save to keep from being snide toward Sir Galad ... That's fine... Sir Douchealot is annoying to me (character) for whatever reason... It's because he's prettier than Jareth, right? Everything okay?
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Post by LabRat on Aug 7, 2012 15:50:12 GMT -6
Yeah but Jereth wears tighter pants so it really is a toss up
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Post by WxMAN on Aug 8, 2012 7:05:37 GMT -6
Yes, sometimes frustrations from the work day/week can slip in to the game despite my best efforts
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Post by Gigermann on Aug 11, 2012 19:18:51 GMT -6
For the record: Sneaky-types were going to remain behind and loot the bldg. while the others return the captured deserters to the guard.
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Post by Rigil Kent on Aug 11, 2012 19:49:25 GMT -6
So, that would be: Tam and Val remaining behind, while Aria and Jareth take the three deserters, Verik and Aust's corpse back.
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