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Post by Rigil Kent on Aug 28, 2012 10:15:54 GMT -6
Jareth would like to know: What restrictions are placed on me if I join the College? Define limitations? Think of this as the community college as opposed to a big university. No, that's not right. Rather ... think of it as the equivalent of a smaller university ... UCO as opposed to Acadamae's OU. He has no interest in teaching at That Place. (Said with a great deal of scorn.) He will also admit that he left after a major disagreement with the Acadamae headmaster. Oh, that's easy: they need new blood and Jareth reminds him a little of himself when he was younger. Heh. Actually, you won't need to put a lot of effort there as, while behind closed doors, he's very vocal about his dislike for the Templars as a whole and how the mages are treated. He will admit that there are a handful of decent Templars in the Order - he has one or two friends, though he doesn't want to name names - but the majority of them are bullies with swords who are more interested in maintaining their authority than following the original precepts of the Templar Order. He's pleased that the popular opinion toward Templars and mages seems to be changing - most citizens are tired of the Whitecloaks being asshats as well - but thinks it's happening too slowly. The fire is still there, although its dimmed with age and disappointment, and he's learned to keep a lot of it hidden behind closed doors. There is clearly something that has caused him to start watching his tongue more closely.
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Post by Gigermann on Aug 28, 2012 10:20:51 GMT -6
Seriously…does Jareth actually have a shop? If he turns the place into his apothecary, we can refer to it as "the shop," at least (not The Shop™)
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Post by WxMAN on Aug 28, 2012 10:53:31 GMT -6
As far as I can tell, with the Acadamae, students have very little freedom to leave the place and go into the city and Templars are always watching you. I need a little less "structured learning" in my classes so I can continue to pursue power and maybe even muster further support to bring down the Templars (obviously I'm not telling anyone any of this)... Maybe some self study classes where I can come in and seek help from the professors if I have some issues and then prove my competency with the material with a "final exam" if you will at the end of the "semester" (I'm not certain how wizarding school works vs traditional modern US school structure) Oh, that's easy: they need new blood and Jareth reminds him a little of himself when he was younger. While I can kinda tell from your writing that Logain is being sincere, I am just making sure to state Jareth is "sensing motive" to make sure this isn't just a overly friendly College president looking to boost his recruiting numbers with a bunch of fluff which will leave me with a worthless degree and 100,000 GP in student loan debt There is clearly something that has caused him to start watching his tongue more closely. Now that is something I will have to start working to figure out as time passes and I sure up our relationship with him... His friend is probably sir douchealot and the captain creepy eye is probably the guy threatening Logain to keep his mouth shut... and in an ironic scene douchealot and Jareth will have to trust each other to survive and become best friends... which will then be spun-off into a sitcom "The Templar's Apostate" or sumsuch nonsense Does Jareth actually have a shop? What Jareth sells he doesn't exactly have a license to do... nor appropriate paperwork to own a business... mobility is the strength of his "shop".. so a storefront would kinda not be in his interests.... Plus I'm more partial to calling it the "Squat Shack"
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Post by Rigil Kent on Aug 28, 2012 11:11:56 GMT -6
I need a little less "structured learning" in my classes so I can continue to pursue power and maybe even muster further support to bring down the Templars (obviously I'm not telling anyone any of this)... Maybe some self study classes where I can come in and seek help from the professors if I have some issues and then prove my competency with the material with a "final exam" if you will at the end of the "semester" (I'm not certain how wizarding school works vs traditional modern US school structure) In this case, self-study will mostly be the name of the game. I guess you could consider it to be the equivalent of you seeking a masters or doctorate. Consider also that the majority of people who attend or teach here are likely Chaotic or Neutral in alignment... LOL. Hell, he probably wants you to become a teacher! Well, crap. There goes that idea.
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Post by thedefiantbudah on Aug 28, 2012 14:12:22 GMT -6
would Mardak have picked up on the feelings toward magic users...i think he would, so he would prolly have the same feelings toward the templars that Jareth does...maybe an ally in the eventual coup...even if the characters don't know it...
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Post by WxMAN on Aug 28, 2012 15:03:42 GMT -6
I think he would, so he would prolly have the same feelings toward the templars that Jareth does...maybe an ally in the eventual coup...even if the characters don't know it... Is Mardak a magic user though? Jareth has seen him use darkness (maybe as an SLA?), but does he have any magic outside of race based? Any UMD? Spellcraft? Knowledge(Arcana)? Not that Jareth is particularly picky for allies to topple the Templars (of which you'd only know at best that Jareth doesn't trust the Templars and doesn't care to be around them... The party doesn't know about Jareth hoping to actively participate in the downfall of the Templars) but I'm not sure Jareth considers you a "magic user" until he sees you perform some magics...
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Post by thedefiantbudah on Aug 28, 2012 20:50:01 GMT -6
not a magic user...but as the darkness (SLA) revealed, not exactly going to be well liked or trusted by some if the secret comes out...no UMD, spellcraft, or Knowledge(arcana)...yet...but based on ideas, will have K(A) soon...and no magic outside of race based
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Post by Rigil Kent on Aug 29, 2012 9:53:25 GMT -6
I actually don't know if Mardak has been in Korvosa long enough to really detect the antipathy between mages and Templars. After some time, certainly, but probably not at the moment.
FYI, in regards to the "joining an academy/college/train," the mechanic I'm thinking of applying is thus: After X amount of time in training (probably a month or two), a PC will receive a bonus, applicable feat. For example, say you have a warrior type and you spend a lot of time at Orisini's fighting school. After a month or so, the GM declares you have gained Weapon Focus on your primary weapon. Or, in the case of Jareth, let's say he spends that downtime at the College. At the end of that time, I could tell him "Gain a metamagic feat" or maybe "Pick a feat from the list of Wizard's bonus feats." That sort of thing.
Thoughts? Feedback?
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Post by thedefiantbudah on Aug 29, 2012 10:06:28 GMT -6
i like it, question though...would the weapon focus be the most (i.e. masters degree) of would you be able to attend longer to gain additional feats/abilities?
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Post by Rigil Kent on Aug 29, 2012 10:14:28 GMT -6
No, I'm thinking additional feats might come later, but with increasing amounts of time required. For example (and this isn't set in stone): - 1st 30 days of actual time spent studying = 1st bonus feat.
- 31 to 90 days of time spent studying = 2nd bonus feat.
- 91 to 200 days = 3rd bonus feat
- Etc.
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Post by WxMAN on Aug 29, 2012 10:44:50 GMT -6
I like it, however it will make more work for you (the GM) as we will be stronger than out CL indicates and will also have to be very careful to scale the bonus feats to prevent the characters from being really overpowered for their level...
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Post by Gigermann on Aug 29, 2012 10:59:25 GMT -6
I suppose an alternative would be just to give extra XP for the schooling—sooner to the next level.
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Post by Rigil Kent on Aug 29, 2012 11:06:34 GMT -6
Bah. Would rather hand out the bonus feats. Just to make things more complicated.
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Post by Gigermann on Aug 29, 2012 11:44:52 GMT -6
An unrelated thought: We should have the ghost of the house's previous owner make an occasional "appearance" to folks outside, so she appears to still be alive (thus preventing the city from coming to claim the house)
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Post by LabRat on Aug 29, 2012 12:18:53 GMT -6
I really like the concept. I could do a lot with this.
Remind me (because I can't remember) but does she look ethereal? If not, then this is also a good idea.
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Post by Rigil Kent on Sept 4, 2012 9:16:43 GMT -6
It just occurred to me how weird the HP rolling was for this level. Four PCs. Two PCs rolled max (4 and 10 respectively). The remaining two both rolled 2 (out of 6 and 12 respectively.)
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Post by LabRat on Sept 4, 2012 9:20:38 GMT -6
So what you're saying is that the people who rolled 2's get a reroll right?
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Post by Rigil Kent on Sept 4, 2012 9:37:37 GMT -6
Nope. Next time, roll better.
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Post by WxMAN on Sept 4, 2012 13:59:28 GMT -6
Cower puny mortals at my massive 25 HP!
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Post by Rigil Kent on Sept 4, 2012 14:07:54 GMT -6
Same HP as Val, actually...
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Post by WxMAN on Sept 5, 2012 7:42:12 GMT -6
The two dwarf things didn't happen to have any spellbooks on them did they? I know they were tossing spells, but was unsure if they were spont casters or all racial abilities or what
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Post by Rigil Kent on Sept 5, 2012 10:33:14 GMT -6
No, there were no spellbooks present.
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Post by thedefiantbudah on Sept 7, 2012 22:58:49 GMT -6
note for next week...still have "all or nothing" fumble active ... -1 on attack rolls until score a critical hit
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Post by Rigil Kent on Sept 8, 2012 13:48:16 GMT -6
Some thoughts: - Probably to no one's surprise, I was extremely dissatisfied with the ending of this week's session. I rushed it and I apologize for that. Feel free to vent as you wish.
- Next week, after we handle some initial stuff (like the results of your venture to the Orisini Academy), some time will elapse. This period will be 5 weeks (35 days.) Let me know if you have any plans about your character's intents.
Some additional thoughts: - WxMAN mentioned massive damage and, to be honest, I've never really like how D&D does it, so I'm considering using these Alternate Damage Threshold rules, specifically either the Constitution-Based Threshold or the HD-Based Threshold. Let me know what you think.
- I'm not happy with the Harrow Point mechanic and would like to change it. I'm considering using the Action Points variant. Again, let me know what you think.
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Post by WxMAN on Sept 8, 2012 13:55:30 GMT -6
After doing Logain quite the favor by helping out Thousand Bones in his time of needs as well as keeping the whole rogue necromancer thing quiet and joining the Bronchos... I would like Logain to do a 90/60... He sells stuff to me at a 10% discount and buys stuff at 60% value.... diplomacy roll if need be?
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Post by LabRat on Sept 8, 2012 15:12:12 GMT -6
Eh, I don't think that I am going to vent per se, but I did think it was rushed. I don't know if it was one of those cut scenes that needed to happen because you could introduce a new character, but I do know that some effort was being made so that our party could solve the situation. Those efforts really weren't acknowledged. I don't know if this mod was on a specific time schedule but we probably could have waited until next week to see how this was going to play out. In the five week time period Aria would like to make further effort in finding someone who can instruct her more in her weapon (maybe she can find someone suitable ::poke GM Poke: . Oh and she's also kicking Mardak out of the house. Right now she isn't happy with being lied to about his abilities/race so that probably wasn't a smart idea on Mardak's part. She will give him one opportunity to redeem himself and that is to simply tell her the entire truth. Until then she will merely regard him as an associate. And I wouldn't suggest telling her a half truth only to have more of it be revealed, it would not end well. Also she wants to approach Jareth and see if he would be willing to become her PR agent of sorts to help spread the word about her good deeds and how it links to House Devreaux. The chance of this coming to fruition is dependent on what Jareth wants in return (which is still TBD). She also wants to do some shopping but I need to figure out what she needs first. The results of that shopping list will be over in my own thread shortly.
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Post by Rigil Kent on Sept 8, 2012 17:03:14 GMT -6
Yeah ... I'm contemplating dialing back the final scene and redoing it with you guys being aware of what is intended. But it depends on how you guys would like to approach it...
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Post by Gigermann on Sept 8, 2012 18:43:46 GMT -6
Don't know what we would do differently, in any case, so maybe not necessary
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Post by Rigil Kent on Sept 8, 2012 19:11:29 GMT -6
I don't know if this mod was on a specific time schedule but we probably could have waited until next week to see how this was going to play out. No, it was just me. I wanted to end the session that way but should have just pushed it until next week. Conveniently enough, both Aria and Val are going to have the same contact (since he wanted to get training in the chain himself) ...
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Post by WxMAN on Sept 8, 2012 21:14:29 GMT -6
Don't know what we would do differently, in any case, so maybe not necessary Yeah.... I don't know how we'd affect the outcome of what happened... despite our best efforts (even knowing what is 'going to happen'), I don't know how the scene would be changed in any appreciable way.... The BDH has shown up to save the city, maybe we'll get lucky and become sidekicks ... After doing Logain quite the favor by helping out Thousand Bones in his time of needs as well as keeping the whole rogue necromancer thing quiet and joining the Bronchos... I would like Logain to do a 90/60... He sells stuff to me at a 10% discount and buys stuff at 60% value.... diplomacy roll if need be? I think you may of missed this b/c we posted at the same time...
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