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Post by Rigil Kent on Mar 12, 2016 10:46:23 GMT -6
So with Sofia knowing (or at least suspecting) that she is caught up in groundhog day scenario - I totally envision next week being her third trip around, with her having gone through the same events thinking it was all just super deja vu; perhaps they chose an alternate route into Fairview, but it also was trapped - what is her next step? None of the other characters have any recollection of these events and will probably think she's at least slightly crazy ... so she's driving the boat whether she wanted to or not...
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Post by LabRat on Mar 12, 2016 16:50:31 GMT -6
So with Sofia knowing (or at least suspecting) that she is caught up in groundhog day scenario - I totally envision next week being her third trip around, with her having gone through the same events thinking it was all just super deja vu; perhaps they chose an alternate route into Fairview, but it also was trapped - what is her next step? None of the other characters have any recollection of these events and will probably think she's at least slightly crazy ... so she's driving the boat whether she wanted to or not... There are several things she needs to do or figure out. 1. She needs to look into the name that Solomander gave her (I forget what it was but I think it started with an "n"), to see if there is anything in the literature about exactly what 'it' is. 2. She needs to figure out if Solomon is truly gone or if he is simply being possessed. Brandon said that he saw him having two shadows, so it may mean that Solomon can be saved and Solomaander is just outright lying that he's dead. 3. She needs to figure out how to not die, every time they do, it resets the loop and so it is wasted effort. 4. And finally she needs to figure out exactly what that spell was so that she can learn how to overcome and break it. There isn't a point in killing Solomander since it is just going to reset the loop. She needs to figure out how to break the spell, and then they can finally go after and dispatch him.
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Post by Rigil Kent on Mar 12, 2016 20:52:14 GMT -6
1. She needs to look into the name that Solomander gave her (I forget what it was but I think it started with an "n"), to see if there is anything in the literature about exactly what 'it' is. Nihancan. Evidently, pronounced nih-haw-thaw so I was screwing it up the entire time. Okay, so its basically hitting the books. A couple of notes: - She's never even heard of a spell like this and cannot fathom the amount of energy that would be required. For that matter, Magister Katerine has never heard of anything like this. Sure, a faerie queen could probably do it, but beyond that, she cannot envision what else might be able to do it. From Mat's description of "Solomander's" burned hands, she's guessing he tapped directly into the leyline running underneath Bavinger House (and fueling some of the various wizardly stuffs.)
- Due to the energy requirements of this kind of spell, Sofia can make an educated guess that it is emergency action and thus, whatever "Solomonander" is up to, he's doing it tonight. This puts you on a time table and makes "sitting it out" or waiting until the morning a wildly improbable idea.
Other Players should feel free to chime in with thoughts or questions since Sofia has probably forgotten more about magic at this point than any of us can imagine...
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Post by LabRat on Mar 14, 2016 7:10:57 GMT -6
If that's the case then I think she is going to take a risk and try to see if there is a connecting path through the NeverNever that would allow them to drop in on him. It is going to be dangerous, but it seems like no matter what path they take there is a good chance of them getting into trouble. Plus, it also will save on time.
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Post by Rigil Kent on Mar 14, 2016 10:02:25 GMT -6
A reminder: there are always alternate sources of knowledge and information out there. Some options that come immediately to mind: - Aoibheal. Yes, dealing with the Fae is always wrought with peril, but the last time Sofia & Aoibheal interacted, it was mostly on good terms (and, at the time, Aoibheal seemingly owed Sofia a favor that was resolved.) Besides, Sofia is at least aware that Lee has some sort of connection to the Fae...
- Cerridwen. Sofia has been so busy of late that she has not been able to further dig into this Winter Fae's relationship to her; now that she has total recall, she knows ... nothing more than she did before. From the little bit of research she has done, she's aware that the mythical Cerridwen had a reputation of being wise. Granted, she's still a Fae, so there's that.
- Brandon himself. He's offered everything he thinks is relevant but not being a wizardly type, there are certainly things he might have missed or overlooked.
- General Magic itself. Surely there's some way you could get eyes on the area in a way that is cool and wizardly.
In general, I'd say "abuse the Groundhog Day scenario." After the second time she dies and snaps back, she should get a pretty good idea of the rules so you can take risks and come up with crazy plans that, to the other PCs, make no sense. If that's the case then I think she is going to take a risk and try to see if there is a connecting path through the NeverNever that would allow them to drop in on him. It is going to be dangerous, but it seems like no matter what path they take there is a good chance of them getting into trouble. Plus, it also will save on time. Connecting to Fairview, you mean? Getting the drop on him won't help if his death just resets everything though, yeah? Such a sticky wicket!
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Post by LabRat on Mar 14, 2016 13:09:56 GMT -6
Yeah, I don't know WTF I was doing this morning. I had this list of suggestions to try and for some reason I only talked about the portal to the NeverNever. I didn't even phrase it properly. What I wanted to know is if there was a way to get to Fairview via the NeverNever so when time comes we can get the drop on him. Ugh, Mondays! A reminder: there are always alternate sources of knowledge and information out there. I agree, there are some options available. Right now I was just trying to figure out what Sophia was capable of doing by herself before she seeks help. Help usually comes with a hefty price tag around here. [li] Aoibheal. Yes, dealing with the Fae is always wrought with peril, but the last time Sofia & Aoibheal interacted, it was mostly on good terms (and, at the time, Aoibheal seemingly owed Sofia a favor that was resolved.) Besides, Sofia is at least aware that Lee has some sort of connection to the Fae... The last time I remember interacting with her she froze Sophia in place for speaking I did consider her but then the last thing that Sophia would want to do is get tied up with Aoibheal, especially since she has her nails so entrenched with Lee. However, now that Sophia has total recall, is she able to remember what caused Aoibheal to be in her debt? What was their history? I did consider this as I was driving to work this morning, but I (unjustly) assumed that she was too difficult to find. So far, I find this is the best option, as it minimizes risk when dealing with Fae. At least that is what I would like to assume...I mean they are family after all, right? [li] Brandon himself. He's offered everything he thinks is relevant but not being a wizardly type, there are certainly things he might have missed or overlooked. Wow, I overlooked him completely...duh. Okay so Sophia needs him tell him exactly Solomander's whereabouts, how long he has been following him, what he was doing, and why the heck was Brandon following him in the first place. General Magic itself. Surely there's some way you could get eyes on the area in a way that is cool and wizardly. Actually, I was thinking that maybe not necessarily magic, but surely there may be a little misplaced Jive talking fairy who may be willing to help Sophia get some recon going on? So currently, my plan of action would be to talk with Brandon to get more information from him, then I would locate BonBon and see if he/she/it(?) is willing to get some fairy friends out there to try to locate Solomonder and see what he is up to and/or the layout of the land with regards of where we need to go and what ambushes are around. If that's not possible, then I will certainly think up of something else. I am sure that BonBon will need compensation in some fashion so Sophia will be expecting that. Simultaneously, Sophia is going to go and try to find her grandma in order to get information about...well...everything including the present situation. Once again, being Fae she will probably demand payment in some fashion. Last resort would be to get in contact with Aoibheal or just sit back and let everything that will happen, happen. Not too sure what would be the worst outcome
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Post by Rigil Kent on Mar 14, 2016 13:36:56 GMT -6
Yeah, I don't know WTF I was doing this morning. I had this list of suggestions to try and for some reason I only talked about the portal to the NeverNever. I didn't even phrase it properly. What I wanted to know is if there was a way to get to Fairview via the NeverNever so when time comes we can get the drop on him. Ugh, Mondays! Ah. Gotcha. I'm fairly certain there is. AFAIK, the Nevernever connects to every part of the real world - it's just figuring out how to connect the two and where those go. Well ... yeah. Knowledge is power and all that and nothing worth having is free. Which I wish modern voters would remember. Derp. You're right. Because it is Monday, I forgot her 'be thou silent' moment. As to what it was that put Aoibheal into Sofia's debt in the first ... I dunno. You tell me. A reminder that, for all intents and purposes, until someone (cough*mankiller*cough) killed her "Warden," Aoibheal was effectively exiled and imprisoned in OKC so it might have been as simple as a Fetch quest of some sort. Well, even with family, the Fae are psychologically (and probably physiologically) incapable of doing things for free. So even that will probably incur Debt of some kind although, as you state, Grandma Cerridwen will likely be the better choice as opposed to Aoibheal (although, since Sofia has total recall, she is going to be aware that Aoibheal is most likely the more powerful of the two Fae Ladies. So noted. Will probably review his answers on Friday. Hmm. I wonder where BonBon has been living since you got kicked out of that apartment? Logically, it is not out of the realm of possibility that the small Fae has been sort of living on the grounds of Bavinger House (even though she possibly doesn't enter the actual house.) Alternately (and I actually kind of like this idea better), maybe she's now squatting at Adina's apartment. Well, sitting back and letting things just happen would certainly be ... interesting. Guess it's a good thing this GURPS supplement just came out, eh?
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Post by LabRat on Mar 14, 2016 16:45:45 GMT -6
Well, even with family, the Fae are psychologically (and probably physiologically) incapable of doing things for free. So even that will probably incur Debt of some kind although, as you state, Grandma Cerridwen will likely be the better choice as opposed to Aoibheal (although, since Sofia has total recall, she is going to be aware that Aoibheal is most likely the more powerful of the two Fae Ladies. Well, I wasn't going to actually assume she is going to do anything for free. But a blood discount would be most appreciative. Or at the very least, I highly doubt she will lead Sophia down a similar path that Aoibheal has lead Lee. At least I hope not. I also agree that Aoibheal is going to be the more powerful of the two, however, I was trying to play to Sophia's more tempered side now that she has her memories back. Incredibly Overconfident and impulsive Sophia would just go straight to Aoibheal, thinking that she can deal with her. Total Recall Sophia (now known as TR Sophia from this point onward) knows that there is enough time to visit her Gran before doing anything too rash. Hmm. I wonder where BonBon has been living since you got kicked out of that apartment? Logically, it is not out of the realm of possibility that the small Fae has been sort of living on the grounds of Bavinger House (even though she possibly doesn't enter the actual house.) Alternately (and I actually kind of like this idea better), maybe she's now squatting at Adina's apartment. Logically I could see her hanging out at Bavinger, but if you want to put her up in Adina's apartment, then that is totally fine with me. Well, sitting back and letting things just happen would certainly be ... interesting. Guess it's a good thing this GURPS supplement just came out, eh? I don't think I am truly going to have Sophia do this route. But still, good times! Another avenue we haven't really talked about is going through the White Council as they would certainly want to know that one of their prestigious members is currently being possessed and trying to bring on the apocalypse. Would they listen to her? Probably not.
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Post by Rigil Kent on Mar 14, 2016 17:12:01 GMT -6
Well, even with family, the Fae are psychologically (and probably physiologically) incapable of doing things for free. So even that will probably incur Debt of some kind although, as you state, Grandma Cerridwen will likely be the better choice as opposed to Aoibheal (although, since Sofia has total recall, she is going to be aware that Aoibheal is most likely the more powerful of the two Fae Ladies. Well, I wasn't going to actually assume she is going to do anything for free. But a blood discount would be most appreciative. Or at the very least, I highly doubt she will lead Sophia down a similar path that Aoibheal has lead Lee. At least I hope not. I also agree that Aoibheal is going to be the more powerful of the two, however, I was trying to play to Sophia's more tempered side now that she has her memories back. Incredibly Overconfident and impulsive Sophia would just go straight to Aoibheal, thinking that she can deal with her. Total Recall Sophia (now known as TR Sophia from this point onward) knows that there is enough time to visit her Gran before doing anything too rash. That works. I'll plan for Sofia contacting Cerridwen while keeping Aoibheal as a last resort. Your call. Since Bon-Bon is your squatter, you tell me. Another avenue we haven't really talked about is going through the White Council as they would certainly want to know that one of their prestigious members is currently being possessed and trying to bring on the apocalypse. Would they listen to her? Probably not. Another potential avenue to pursue, yes. Some observations that Sofia would know in that regard: - Nihancan reacted the way he/she/it did because he/she/it was fooled into thinking that Sofia had already left to get White Council assistance. Therefore, logically, he/she/it clear presumes that he/she/it can finish before the Council will respond.
- The Council is a bureaucracy. Therefore, Nihancan might be right. By the time the Council does get its ass into gear, it might already be too late.
- In true television/movie logic, clearly you are The Only One who can handle this problem. Clearly.
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Post by LabRat on Mar 15, 2016 13:11:11 GMT -6
Your call. Since Bon-Bon is your squatter, you tell me. She can hang around Bavinger. I imagine she has learned how to ride the Sophia's little dog like a surefooted charger. The Council is a bureaucracy. Therefore, Nihancan might be right. By the time the Council does get its ass into gear, it might already be too late.In true television/movie logic, clearly you are The Only One who can handle this problem. Clearly. Alas, I came to the same conclusion but just wanted to see if it were a viable option. Okay, cue the hero music and let's kick some Nihancan ass...by visiting her Gran (that's heroic, right?)
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Post by Rigil Kent on Mar 15, 2016 13:52:29 GMT -6
The Council is a bureaucracy. Therefore, Nihancan might be right. By the time the Council does get its ass into gear, it might already be too late.In true television/movie logic, clearly you are The Only One who can handle this problem. Clearly. Alas, I came to the same conclusion but just wanted to see if it were a viable option. Okay, cue the hero music and let's kick some Nihancan ass...by visiting her Gran (that's heroic, right?) Oh ... you're thinking of going to her instead of attempting a summoning? Hmm. Must admit, I was not thinking of it like that but it makes sense and might improve your chances at success. That said, taking Lee along might be ... problematic since he's got something going on with Summer ... although it might also show the danger of the situation ... Your call. In any event, sounds like I should figure out what Cerridwen's "house" looks like...
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Post by LabRat on Mar 15, 2016 15:12:56 GMT -6
Yeah, I was going to drop in on her...say Hi, ask her how to save the world as we know it. Maybe we can bond over cookies.
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Post by Rigil Kent on Mar 20, 2016 14:11:25 GMT -6
Making more tweaks to the Wiki Main Page of the Portals. It is my intention to limit the number of clicks necessary to gain intel on the various power groups and factions. Obviously, I'm nowhere near done playing, but progress is still being made. Take a look; give me feedback if you wish.
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Post by Rigil Kent on Apr 2, 2016 1:54:08 GMT -6
Meh. Sorry for the mediocrity. I'll work on it.
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Post by WxMAN on Apr 2, 2016 8:05:25 GMT -6
It wasn't that bad and it isn't like every session is going to be the best ever. It was good and it was a necessary setup for the next sessions big showdown.
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Post by LabRat on Apr 8, 2016 14:51:02 GMT -6
So something interesting to Note: Apparently there is a very large out of control fire that is located south of Freedom, Ok. It has burned almost 90 square miles and firefighters are working round the clock to contain it. The East Campbell Gas Fields are like 35 miles SE of Freedom, Ok...course we would know NOTHING about that, now would we?
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Post by Rigil Kent on Apr 13, 2016 15:09:15 GMT -6
Frak. Forgot to do the tarot draw for the next arc. We shall do that on Friday if Giger doesn't mind.
I'm going to do it a little differently this time: instead of drawing each session, it'll just be at the end of a story arc so I can figure everything out from there.
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Post by Rigil Kent on May 19, 2016 12:11:57 GMT -6
Latest issue of Pyramid (3-91) has some pretty darned good rules for mage duels. I expect that I shall find a way to use them...
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Post by Rigil Kent on Sept 19, 2016 15:42:25 GMT -6
Be thou advised that, as I have completed my most recent run of "Casus Belli" for the Saturday group (Portals site here if you are interested in reading; Wiki is not very complete which I'm planning on working with this week), I am going to be starting to devote some mental bandwidth to Red Sky once more. Don't be too terribly surprised if random posts start popping up here ...
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Post by Rigil Kent on Mar 22, 2017 13:07:32 GMT -6
FWIW, I'm kind of liking the advancement thing that Giger is using with regards to the "Plot Points" thing, particularly since the characters in RS are going to be ~400 points or greater, so I'm seriously toying with implementing something like it and removing the "earn X Character Points" at the end of a session. This is something I am still considering...
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Post by WxMAN on Mar 22, 2017 14:52:42 GMT -6
Something I think you may wish to consider is giving a specific mechanic for Giger's pulling the sword vs the gun.... unless there already is? Such as 9+ = gun, else sword.
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Post by Rigil Kent on Mar 22, 2017 14:55:59 GMT -6
Something I think you may wish to consider is giving a specific mechanic for Giger's pulling the sword vs the gun.... unless there already is? Such as 9+ = gun, else sword. I think the last time I was using a Will check vs Ævenchos' "Ego" score which is ... 12 or 13, I think? Have to look that up. ETA: No, the sword's Will is 10.
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Post by Rigil Kent on Oct 14, 2017 12:05:46 GMT -6
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