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Jul 15, 2011 16:47:47 GMT -6
Post by thedefiantbudah on Jul 15, 2011 16:47:47 GMT -6
Would want to boost the dc if possible....I know it takes 2 pts to boost blast one rank, but I'm not sure what that entails...as far as immunity, it would be weather most likely
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Jul 15, 2011 16:52:57 GMT -6
Post by WxMAN on Jul 15, 2011 16:52:57 GMT -6
One last change.. instead of Master Plan I'll go with Luck as I'd rather have the Hero Point than take an out of place leader-esque feat
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Jul 15, 2011 17:06:18 GMT -6
Post by Rigil Kent on Jul 15, 2011 17:06:18 GMT -6
Would want to boost the dc if possible.... Not possible. Your DC = 15 + 10 which is the power level of the campaign. For some reason, Device lets you go past that - not sure why - which explains why my blast is DC27 (PL12). Not sure I get that. Does that really fit with the character? Plus, you'll note that StormSurge has that immunity and it cost him 5 PP.
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Jul 15, 2011 17:06:35 GMT -6
Post by Rigil Kent on Jul 15, 2011 17:06:35 GMT -6
One last change.. instead of Master Plan I'll go with Luck as I'd rather have the Hero Point than take an out of place leader-esque feat Done. And PDF updated.
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Jul 18, 2011 21:31:48 GMT -6
Post by Rigil Kent on Jul 18, 2011 21:31:48 GMT -6
New question aimed at the GM: As we know, Legionary is now PL 11 and, once the last part of "...The Devil You Know" concludes, I will be posting the PL Upgrade fic. Now, as a battlesuit guy, its pretty easy to figure out what happens: a rebuild of the suit. The question I have is, since this is a rebuild, is it feasible to swap some stuff around? For example, as cool as it is to fly at 5000 mph, it is honestly unnecessary. How often am I going to need to fly that fast in the city? For that matter, is it even possible to fly that fast in the city? So I'm thinking about changing some stuff around, tweaking, etc., and I wanted to get GM approval first. Planned changes: - Flight reduced to 7, which is still 1000mph.
- Another alternate power underneath Blast, which is Strike 1 (Mighty, linked to Enhanced Strength, I'm calling it Force Pilum and explain as him focusing the Blast into a coherent melee strike.)
- Impervious Toughness 11 is replaced with Forcefield 11 (Impervious), with the thought that it can look like semi-visible Roman Scutum (the rectangular shield) if he's trying to extend it to protect a fallen ally or civilian. That's just a nifty visual effect though, intended to fool lesser foes into thinking he's only partially protected every now and then since the field is always active.
- Added Mind Shield 3 - sure, its only a +3 to Will saves versus telepathic powers, but that's a start, right?
- The new battlesuit is going to be more streamlined so it appears more like a person wearing armor than a big ass mech. Recall, this was actually always my intent, and if Gigermann can square me away with the pic, that's even better...
So ultimately, the character doesn't really change that much, although he's going to hit even harder in melee now (that Mighty power is nice, but anyone with Impervious Toughness or Forcefield of 2 is actually immune to the pilum), but the changes make him more in line with a "Roman soldier" motif... Thoughts? Feedback?
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Jul 19, 2011 15:36:08 GMT -6
Post by zenwolf on Jul 19, 2011 15:36:08 GMT -6
That works for me. Perfectly good explanation for it all and making him more "Roman" makes a LOT of sense.
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Jul 19, 2011 17:47:05 GMT -6
Post by Rigil Kent on Jul 19, 2011 17:47:05 GMT -6
Addendum to previous: Had to change the Strike to Strike 12 (Penetrating) (to match the Blast) - it couldn't be Mighty because Enhanced Strength is already an alternate power there and you can't link two alternate powers under the same primary.
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Jul 20, 2011 15:25:07 GMT -6
Post by Rigil Kent on Jul 20, 2011 15:25:07 GMT -6
Random Musing: It occurred to me that we, as a super team, need something that binds us together, something other than "we're getting paid" or "its a job." At the moment, even though the Initiative has been together for a couple of months now (by my calculations, its probably about 6 months), we're not really "friends" and are just mostly "co-workers." I think we need to change that somehow.
Anyone have any ideas about how to do so?
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Jul 20, 2011 15:26:54 GMT -6
Post by LabRat on Jul 20, 2011 15:26:54 GMT -6
aw crap, we're going to have to do team building at a dude ranch aren't we?
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Jul 20, 2011 15:36:04 GMT -6
Post by Gigermann on Jul 20, 2011 15:36:04 GMT -6
aw crap, we're going to have to do team building at a dude ranch aren't we? You laugh, but I could see a corporation deciding that it's a good idea to build some camaraderie and put something like that together.
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Jul 20, 2011 16:04:30 GMT -6
Post by LabRat on Jul 20, 2011 16:04:30 GMT -6
Okay bear with me because my "Knowledge: Comic Books' modifier is like -1,000 but does this really happen? I mean I don't really see the Justice League getting together for Pictionary and karaoke. And if it does happen then what are some examples of camaraderie or at least how did it come to be and maybe we can launch off those ideas.
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Jul 20, 2011 16:21:24 GMT -6
Post by WxMAN on Jul 20, 2011 16:21:24 GMT -6
Anyone have any ideas about how to do so? Wouldn't this be building up over time.. ie sacrificing for each other, etc etc? I mean we took down Centurion and the Freedom League... I know SS wouldn't do this "just because"... his life is kinda spinning out of control, he must be feeling a lot of comradery with most of the team by now or he wouldn't do this as it would be way easier on his life...
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Jul 20, 2011 16:23:27 GMT -6
Post by Rigil Kent on Jul 20, 2011 16:23:27 GMT -6
aw crap, we're going to have to do team building at a dude ranch aren't we? What if it is ... on the moon?! But no, I can't think of an instance where the Justice League did anything remotely that silly - can you imagine Bruce Wayne wearing a cowboy hat? - but some of them are often portrayed as really close friends. Supes and Wondy, for example, are (at least prior to this latest reboot - Lord only knows where they'll go from that point) have referred to one another as best friends, and prior to Crisis, Supes & BM were close buddies (after Crisis, they started butting heads All. The. Time.) I was just looking at it more from the POV of "why shouldn't these characters be good friends?" For example, the players know that StormSurge is having difficulty juggling his family with his career as a hero ... but do any of the characters know this? Do any of our characters have any idea what the others do in their off time? To those of us with secret identities, do any of us know them? I'm going to try and have Legionary be more proactive in that regard, with him trying to get to know the team better and find some sort of common bond that we can use to meld into a better unit, that sort of thing. ETA: In response to WxMAN - in part, yes, this has been sort of building up. The characters likely know that they can trust the others to have their backs in super-heroics, but I don't think any of us know anything about the others outside of "costume." That's all.
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Jul 21, 2011 9:51:11 GMT -6
Post by WxMAN on Jul 21, 2011 9:51:11 GMT -6
I was just looking at it more from the POV of "why shouldn't these characters be good friends?" For example, the players know that StormSurge is having difficulty juggling his family with his career as a hero ... but do any of the characters know this? Do any of our characters have any idea what the others do in their off time? To those of us with secret identities, do any of us know them? Right now. No. Some may know he has issues with this whole "super hero" business, but I am pretty sure SS would separate business and home life. Though this may slowly lead others to see that obviously something is bothering him as things spin further and further out of control...
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Jul 21, 2011 10:37:23 GMT -6
Post by Gigermann on Jul 21, 2011 10:37:23 GMT -6
Right now. No. Some may know he has issues with this whole "super hero" business, but I am pretty sure SS would separate business and home life. Though this may slowly lead others to see that obviously something is bothering him as things spin further and further out of control... Is this how you intend the character to be, or is this you getting painted into a logical corner because you can't see it working any other way? I wonder if you're not still a little confused, like with the story-hooks issue.
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Jul 21, 2011 19:55:45 GMT -6
Post by thedefiantbudah on Jul 21, 2011 19:55:45 GMT -6
well, i think it would depend on how many have secret identities .... JLA only time they're together is when fighting crime/evil...the xmen are all together most of the time and have their original identities and those they have forged as xmen ... i like the idea of the team helping each other out, as far as my character goes...he would initially be stand offish due to the upbringing he had ...but would know by now that he could rely on the group to help him out in a bind...
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Jul 21, 2011 21:12:23 GMT -6
Post by Rigil Kent on Jul 21, 2011 21:12:23 GMT -6
As it stands, Legionary does in fact have a secret identity, although he's probably not as good at keeping it as he should be. By my count, all of the PCs have see him without the helmet (at least in passing) - oddly enough, Graphite Shaft is the character who has seen him the longest out of uniform, and that's due to the extended plane trip from Himalayas to Freedom City, but all the rest have caught at least a glimpse of his face at Centurion's Sanctum.
So while he hasn't officially introduced himself out of the mask, he's certainly not been as diligent as he could be in keeping his face from being seen.
But that's a valid point, budah.
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Jul 21, 2011 21:38:26 GMT -6
Post by Mike E. on Jul 21, 2011 21:38:26 GMT -6
I think we all need to have a Super Hero Heart to Heart here.
Graphite's therapist would suggest that we all have a chat away from the capes so to speak.
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Jul 21, 2011 21:56:03 GMT -6
Post by Rigil Kent on Jul 21, 2011 21:56:03 GMT -6
Graphite's therapist would suggest that we all have a chat away from the capes so to speak. And I suspect his therapist would tell Legionary that he needs to get a hobby outside of the "cape." ;D
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Jul 21, 2011 22:11:12 GMT -6
Post by WxMAN on Jul 21, 2011 22:11:12 GMT -6
Is this how you intend the character to be, or is this you getting painted into a logical corner because you can't see it working any other way? I wonder if you're not still a little confused, like with the story-hooks issue. Yes, this is as intended... When I make a character I give them personality traits, so him being very quiet about his personal life to others is how he would react... No I am not confused... story hooks issue? Graphite's therapist would suggest that we all have a chat away from the capes so to speak. Featuring Trish and SS are in marriage counseling right now, I think SS is on the brink of "having it up to here" with shrinks...
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Jul 22, 2011 8:00:21 GMT -6
Post by Gigermann on Jul 22, 2011 8:00:21 GMT -6
Yes, this is as intended... Don't put too much on what I said yesterday—I wasn't thinking straight. That said, let me try to better explain myself. None of us really have a grasp on your character's "character" at this point, since you haven't based him on anything we recognize, and we haven't seen enough of him, in or out of the cape, to get a feel. We have a better idea what he does in his off-cape time, now, at least. Having established that… At the start, you were having problems justifying the fact that a person with "these powers" wouldn't end up as a criminal psychopath: =confusion (my term). Later, you were having problems understanding what was needed in terms of background hooks for the GM: =confusion. Now, my concern is that you are intentionally creating a character that won't interact with the group except in a fight/mission: =confusion? My character is a loner (a good example of how it can work), but he's not "dysfunctionally" so. I'm concerned you may be painting yourself into a dysfunctional corner—hence my question.
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Post by Rigil Kent on Jul 22, 2011 9:53:11 GMT -6
FYI, I brought some reading material for some people. Budah, I finally remembered to bring Kingdom Come for you. LabRat and WxMAN, I brought the 1st 5 issues of Astro City, which is very much a Mutants and Masterminds kind of universe. After you're done with that, I have (next week) the Confessor arc for Astro City which is, IMO, the best non-Batman Batman story I've ever read...
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Jul 22, 2011 10:28:07 GMT -6
Post by WxMAN on Jul 22, 2011 10:28:07 GMT -6
Now, my concern is that you are intentionally creating a character that won't interact with the group except in a fight/mission: =confusion? My character is a loner (a good example of how it can work), but he's not "dysfunctionally" so. I'm concerned you may be painting yourself into a dysfunctional corner—hence my question. No, I don't plan on making him "dysfunctional".. he is just a normal guy... in a lot of ways I am just basing him off of me personality wise... I tend to be rather guarded about my home/personal life with people.. ie, you may know something is bothering me, but I won't seek out comfort or help from others... if pressed I may divulge a little general information about the nature of what is bothering me, but I won't be laying on the couch pouring my heart out... which isn't to say I won't go hang out with friends (ie the other superheroes), I just won't be discussing the intricacies of my current mental and personal state... So yeah, long story short, SS isn't "dysfunctional" and would be glad to hang out with the rest of the team during off hours - if he has time - but he also won't be seeking counseling about personal issues from the group. He has however sought a little advice as to "how to be a superhero" from the more experienced among the group
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Jul 22, 2011 10:34:31 GMT -6
Post by Rigil Kent on Jul 22, 2011 10:34:31 GMT -6
And ironically, the person he sought advice from is arguably among the most dysfunctional. Life outside of the "cape"? Nonexistent. Personal relationships? Let's see, closest friend is a Mad!Scientist, love interest is a super villain who may or may not be reforming, etc. etc.
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Jul 22, 2011 10:50:47 GMT -6
Post by WxMAN on Jul 22, 2011 10:50:47 GMT -6
And ironically, the person he sought advice from is arguably among the most dysfunctional. Well, that was advice about being in 'cape' and how to properly handle the 'powers' you have...
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Jul 22, 2011 10:53:25 GMT -6
Post by LabRat on Jul 22, 2011 10:53:25 GMT -6
. LabRat and WxMAN, I brought the 1st 5 issues of Astro City, which is very much a Mutants and Masterminds kind of universe. After you're done with that, I have (next week) the Confessor arc for Astro City which is, IMO, the best non-Batman Batman story I've ever read... Yay! I'm excited to read them! ;D
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Jul 22, 2011 12:37:15 GMT -6
Post by Rigil Kent on Jul 22, 2011 12:37:15 GMT -6
I really can't wait to hear WxMAN commenting on the character of Samaritan. Honestly? He makes Superman look a little like a poser. And ironically, the person he sought advice from is arguably among the most dysfunctional. Well, that was advice about being in 'cape' and how to properly handle the 'powers' you have... Still, its kind of funny. Sort of like asking the workaholic how he manages his personal time. ;D But don't worry: if zenwolf follows true comic book logic, your character's wife will soon be "fridged" or turn into a powered arch-enemy.
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Jul 22, 2011 12:43:58 GMT -6
Post by WxMAN on Jul 22, 2011 12:43:58 GMT -6
But don't worry: if zenwolf follows true comic book logic, your character's wife will soon be "fridged" or turn into a powered arch-enemy. That would make SS very sad
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Jul 22, 2011 12:46:56 GMT -6
Post by Rigil Kent on Jul 22, 2011 12:46:56 GMT -6
But don't worry: if zenwolf follows true comic book logic, your character's wife will soon be "fridged" or turn into a powered arch-enemy. That would make SS very sad Ah, but it gives him ANGST! (ala "My parents are dead!" )
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Jul 22, 2011 13:54:11 GMT -6
Post by LabRat on Jul 22, 2011 13:54:11 GMT -6
This is the part when he sells his sole to the devil....right?
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