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Post by CommJunkee on Sept 17, 2018 8:44:18 GMT -6
To be honest I am, currently, rather uninterested in space sci-fi of late. I guess, having run Traveler, played Traveler, and now Star Trek I am a bit burned out. Yes... we did just finish some Pathfinder, but I wasn't involved long enough to get my fix. No... running a fantasy game is not sating me. Fallout is a setting I am REALLY interested in. I guess my overall answer is, 'anything BUT space sci-fi' <for now>. How I am going to feel so many months from now... <shrug>.
I am in quite a bit of a Dresden kick, and have always enjoyed a contemporary game (see my offer to run NBA). I tend to run them, not play. So, a chance to play is a welcome change.
At the end of the day, I will play what is offered, or not (but not to offend the GM).
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Post by LabRat on Sept 17, 2018 10:28:22 GMT -6
I will be happy with what inspires the GM. Of course I love Dresden, but I love sci-fi as well (and we don't really play a lot of it with this group). I don't expect to have too many absences in the future with the exception of the Holiday crazies because I still have a dutiful child complex and my family is needy during that time of year. Bottom line: if Dresden left a bad taste in your mouth then don't do it and stick with the Sci-Fi (plus I can still give you crap about not playing Dresden so it's a win/win for me). I am interested in both settings and playing both characters, so I'm great either way.
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Post by Rigil Kent on Sept 17, 2018 10:34:18 GMT -6
You people are staggeringly unhelpful. Everyone is all "Meh. Whatever." That doesn't help me much.  if Dresden left a bad taste in your mouth I did not mean to imply that. It was simply due to the inconsistent attendance due to real life that sort of killed the narrative flow. That's why I started considering something else since Red Sky kind of required attendance ... |
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Post by LabRat on Sept 17, 2018 11:35:10 GMT -6
You people are staggeringly unhelpful. Everyone is all "Meh. Whatever." That doesn't help me much. Whoa, there is no "meh" on my side. I am excited to play both because I love Dresden but I am also happy with the notion of playing a Sci-Fi game because we haven't done one in forever, and the ones we do play are typically short lived. If I had it my way, it would be for you to run one and then the other. That's why I'm deferring to you as a GM to see if one tickles your fancy. As far as I'm concerned, you're my tie breaker. If you're stoked to run one over the other, then that means that game is going to be that much better. I did not mean to imply that. It was simply due to the inconsistent attendance due to real life that sort of killed the narrative flow. That's why I started considering something else since Red Sky kind of required attendance ... That was more lazy writing on my part, the bad taste was in reference to the lack of attendance. I should have said, if you still have concerns about attendance and whether or not that would impact your game because certain players are more unreliable (*cough*Shelley*cough*Nate*Cough* ), then by all means play up the Sci-Fi and let's get into some star-draped shenanigans. Also, Comm did say that he's leaning more towards Dresden with his current mindset, so really, he being much more helpful than I am |
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Post by Gigermann on Sept 17, 2018 11:40:38 GMT -6
For the record, I'm a bit burned-out on medieval-fantasy—or more specifically, Pathfinder, but then I've been there for all of Kingmaker, Crimson Throne/City, Shelley's, etc. For Mark's sake, I'm tempted to throw in for Generica here, but that's not going to happen now with my Sat run coming up.
OTOH, no offense intended to or felt as a result of the Hierses—c'est la vie—but I don't expect their attendance to be "regular" regardless of the time of year or schooling—whatever we do needs to be able to weather their absence. That means that we can likely expect Fallout, with a Hiers GM, to be as intermittent as Kingmaker has been. Until evidenced otherwise. We'll need a backup plan that everyone else won't bail on.
Side note: I expect we're all sick of making new characters for new campaigns, but I don't know how we get around that aside from continuing a previous game (and some are going to need new characters regardless).
[Edit] …except using pregens, but that comes with its own issues.
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Post by Rigil Kent on Sept 17, 2018 12:25:37 GMT -6
I think, currently, we have 1 Red Sky (CJ), 1 Traveller (N8), and two 'GM Call' (Giger, LabRat) ... which leaves me in the same position I was before. |
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Post by LabRat on Sept 17, 2018 12:35:55 GMT -6
OTOH, no offense intended to or felt as a result of the Hierses... No offense taken by me. It's a fair assessment. I am currently doing things that will help help mitigate my attendance issues, and I am hopeful that it won't be as much of a problem as it has been. Finding a new job within the next few months would really help. Lately I've been at bit more...forceful...at work with regards to my schedule and it seems to have marginal degrees of success. Delaying my run till the first of the year (which looks like it will work out that way) will also help as it is the time where work isn't so hectic, and my other pursuits don't require as much of my time. Illness will always be an issue because I'm just broken in that regard. I get that nothing I can say now will give anyone much confidence in my future run. In fact if anyone thinks I'm not going to be effective at running, I'd rather have people tell me now than not say anything. My goal isn't to make you miserable and/or frustrated, and it isn't going to hurt my feelings if you're honest with me. I guess the take home for all of this is that I'm aware of the situation and I'm doing what I can with the understanding that expectations aren't going to change until there are demonstrable results. If contingency plans need to be put in place, then they need to be put in place. |
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Post by LabRat on Sept 17, 2018 12:37:03 GMT -6
I think, currently, we have 1 Red Sky (CJ), 1 Traveller (N8), and two 'GM Call' (Giger, LabRat) ... which leaves me in the same position I was before. Fine, Red Sky...done |
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Post by Gigermann on Sept 17, 2018 12:53:28 GMT -6
I get that nothing I can say now will give anyone much confidence in my future run. At least when you're here you generally bring your A-game  |
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Post by Rigil Kent on Sept 17, 2018 12:59:48 GMT -6
I get that nothing I can say now will give anyone much confidence in my future run. In fact if anyone thinks I'm not going to be effective at running, I'd rather have people tell me now than not say anything. My goal isn't to make you miserable and/or frustrated, and it isn't going to hurt my feelings if you're honest with me. I guess the take home for all of this is that I'm aware of the situation and I'm doing what I can with the understanding that expectations aren't going to change until there are demonstrable results. If contingency plans need to be put in place, then they need to be put in place. Nah, I have faith in you. At least until WxMAN knocks you out and abduct-moves you to Alaska... I think, currently, we have 1 Red Sky (CJ), 1 Traveller (N8), and two 'GM Call' (Giger, LabRat) ... which leaves me in the same position I was before. Fine, Red Sky...done I was actually putting the onus on MagMan and/or Xeno since you'd voted Both... |
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Post by LabRat on Sept 17, 2018 13:26:18 GMT -6
I was actually putting the onus on MagMan and/or Xeno since you'd voted Both... I know, but I also know that having complacent players can be frustrating for a GM when they want feed back. So I went ahead and made a decision. Just know that it is like 51/49 to Red Sky, so the preference is marginal. |
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Post by WxMAN on Sept 17, 2018 13:27:40 GMT -6
Side note: I expect we're all sick of making new characters for new campaigns, but I don't know how we get around that aside from continuing a previous game (and some are going to need new characters regardless). Amen... which is (part of the reason) why I've stuck with Kingmaker... Campaigns should be either: - Self contained ie "We will be running ~12 sessions in X system and Y setting. The campaign will be finished and not continued after the end of this run." (in all honesty, I think this is a poor idea in general for my tastes in GM'ing now, but I am a man of my word and will continue to run until the players say they're done with my crap)
- Long running where a GM commits and will not drop the campaign unless the players decide to kill it or the GM, after much deliberation, kills it.
- An explicit one-shot
This whole "I have 3 back-burnered campaigns two of which I've never actually started and one that has run a session, but let me propose my fourth" gets old in a hurry. I get that every GM has 20 'good ideas' running through their head constantly and it even gets worse the longer you play as those ideas pile up - but we're at a point (at least for now) where we have a queue of five games (Xeno, Labrat, Rigil, CJ, and me [somewhere Giger or McN may jump in this list]). I just finished, and it looks like the earliest we'll get back to kingmaker in 1.5 years at best - and given we're at the half way point... using the past 3 chapters as a guide, we won't be done with Kingmaker for 4.5 years... mid-2024. So I'm clearly sympathetic to GM's having more than one game, but in a way we have a "good" problem with as many GMs as we have - and that is there is a very long turnaround time between GMing. |
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Post by Rigil Kent on Sept 17, 2018 15:08:53 GMT -6
[Edit] …except using pregens, but that comes with its own issues. I have played in games in the past where we used the pregens and they turned out to be fun ... but honestly, that's only true for me if the pregens are interesting in the first place. TBH, I haven't been very impressed with Paizo's pregen characters, for example, but the pregens for the NBA demo adventure "Excess Baggage" (seen here) are kind of neat to me because they start out with interesting personalities... |
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Post by LabRat on Feb 15, 2019 10:56:12 GMT -6
So I've been planning out my run and it looks like I will probably be done, on April 26th +/- one week, assuming nothing too terribly catastrophic happens. I don't know who is next up, but I figured I would give people a two month warning in case someone wants to get in line.
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Post by CommJunkee on Feb 15, 2019 13:18:33 GMT -6
So I've been planning out my run and it looks like I will probably be done, on April 26th +/- one week, assuming nothing too terribly catastrophic happens. I don't know who is next up, but I figured I would give people a two month warning in case someone wants to get in line. Planning out how long a campaign will go... that is precious. LOL. |
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Post by CommJunkee on Feb 15, 2019 13:19:53 GMT -6
Is everyone still up for some vampire slaying action?
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Post by LabRat on Feb 15, 2019 14:17:34 GMT -6
So I've been planning out my run and it looks like I will probably be done, on April 26th +/- one week, assuming nothing too terribly catastrophic happens. I don't know who is next up, but I figured I would give people a two month warning in case someone wants to get in line. Planning out how long a campaign will go... that is precious. LOL. Planning is a loose term here. Basically I'm just choosing a good place for me to stop, and will set the pacing to that goal. And yes, vampire slaying is totally fine with me |
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Post by Gigermann on Feb 15, 2019 14:56:12 GMT -6
Is everyone still up for some vampire slaying action? I was (and still am) assuming NBA would be next. But this won't leave you with much of a buffer from Banestorm. I could throw some Car Wars in between if needed. |
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Post by WxMAN on Feb 16, 2019 12:07:57 GMT -6
Is everyone still up for some vampire slaying action? My current plan is to be back 10 May or 17 May. Hopefully that will be in time to catch the beginning of NBA - I'm curious about it because I've been listening to Ken Hites and Robin D Laws' podcast and he's talked about it. Pretty cool Ken is from OKC originally! |
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Post by LabRat on Mar 6, 2019 16:33:13 GMT -6
OTOH, no offense intended to or felt as a result of the Hierses— c'est la vie—but I don't expect their attendance to be "regular" regardless of the time of year or schooling—whatever we do needs to be able to weather their absence. That means that we can likely expect Fallout, with a Hiers GM, to be as intermittent as Kingmaker has been. Until evidenced otherwise. Going on week 8! Whoop Whoop!!  |
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Post by Rigil Kent on Mar 6, 2019 17:08:55 GMT -6
Woot!
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Post by Gigermann on Mar 6, 2019 17:46:38 GMT -6
Going on week 8! Whoop Whoop!! I know you didn't just do that…do you even watch the show? |
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Post by Rigil Kent on Mar 6, 2019 18:04:33 GMT -6
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Post by WxMAN on Mar 6, 2019 19:40:44 GMT -6
Since it looks like the order is currently:
LabRat (Fallout) -> CommJunkie (NBA) -> Rigil (Trav)
Allow me to throw my hat in the ring either after Rigil or before if he needs more time for Kingmaker Chapter 4. Assuming people still want to play it.
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Post by LabRat on Mar 6, 2019 19:49:02 GMT -6
Forgive me but that .gif can also be for "Surprise! Buttseks!" |
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Post by LabRat on Mar 6, 2019 19:49:35 GMT -6
Since it looks like the order is currently: LabRat (Fallout) -> CommJunkie (NBA) -> Rigil (Trav) Allow me to throw my hat in the ring either after Rigil or before if he needs more time for Kingmaker Chapter 4. Assuming people still want to play it. I do! I do! |
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Post by Rigil Kent on Mar 7, 2019 8:52:46 GMT -6
Since it looks like the order is currently: LabRat (Fallout) -> CommJunkie (NBA) -> Rigil (Trav) Allow me to throw my hat in the ring either after Rigil or before if he needs more time for Kingmaker Chapter 4. Assuming people still want to play it. Depending on the Saturday game and where we are in the rotation here, I may unavailable (e.g., running a game on Sat) when CJ ends his NBA run since I think I'm scheduled to start running Saturdays in three weeks (maybe four.) So ... depends on how long LabRat goes, and then how like CJ goes. I sort of expected the order to be Fallout > NBA > Kingmaker Ch4 (maybe half of it if the GM doesn't want to do the whole thing?) then > me. |
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Post by Gigermann on Mar 7, 2019 8:59:00 GMT -6
I'm expecting some Car Wars filler, as needed.
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Post by WxMAN on Mar 10, 2019 20:14:58 GMT -6
I sort of expected the order to be Fallout > NBA > Kingmaker Ch4 (maybe half of it if the GM doesn't want to do the whole thing?) then > me. We'll see. I promised a group of guys I met at GenCon I would run Eclipse Phase for them, so I have to learn that system. Then I have to re-read Chapter 4 and skim Chapter 5 and 6 so I don't try and do something that is contradicted later - and I'm not exactly a fast reader at the best of times. |
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Post by Rigil Kent on Mar 10, 2019 21:52:21 GMT -6
No worries. If it turns out that I'm done with the Saturday run when we get to that point, I'll gladly start Traveller...
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